Spotlight Poets: Zainab Syed & Zohab Khan

The ‘Pakistan Poetry Slam’ is an initiative that was launched recently by Zainab Syed and Zohab Khan at ‘The Last Word’ bookshop in Lahore. Their first event as a team was both soulful and bombastic, moving their audience to laughter, surprise and contemplation. The two young poets aim to spread slam poetry across schools in Pakistan, encouraging their participants to use the medium of verse as a means of self-knowledge and as a tool to understand the joy and terror of the world they live in today.

Ahead of the launch, The Missing Slate’s Afshan Shafi spoke to both poets, discussing their influences (both spoken word and within a larger literary context), the advantages of the spoken word form, and their long-term vision for the Pakistan Poetry Slam project.

Zainab Syed

Zainab Syed graduated from Brown University in May 2014 with a degree in Political Science. She is an internationally-touring Spoken Word Artist and Educator, and was a finalist in the Australian National Poetry Slam. Zainab has performed and taught workshops at venues in the US as well as in the UK, Europe, South Asia and Australia. Her poetry focuses on the Middle East and South Asia, with attention paid to issues of inequality, violence and cultural disparity. Zainab was working in Peshawar, with the Ministry of Change, to coordinate the Trauma Counseling, Training, Art Therapy and Media Awareness efforts in the aftermath of the December 2014 Army Public School Shooting. Zainab currently lives between Lahore (Pakistan) and Perth (Australia) and has known home in many other places including Providence, Sana’a, London, Llantwit Major, Bucharest, and Islamabad.

How were you introduced to spoken word poetry? Did you have any mentorship, or was the support of the performing community an invaluable aid in your development?

I have been writing for as long as I can remember. My father jokes about my habit of carrying a notebook and pen with me everywhere as a child. It started as a way to make sure I never forgot the places I traveled to as a kid. At my boarding school in Wales I found fellow lovers of poetry and we used to head down to the ocean at midnight once a month to read out the words of famous poets — never our own. When I got to Brown, my first month there I saw a few poets “perform” poetry, which was new to me but had me completely enthralled. It seemed as though my love of poetry and years of theatre suddenly got married and had a baby. I looked up the group, attended the first meeting, was thoroughly intimidated by the likes of Phil Kaye, Jamila Woods, Laura Brown Lavoie, Franny Choi, Kai Huang, Christopher Johnson, Amina Sheikh, Fatimah Asghar, who were all a part of that space, and never looked back. WORD!, as it was called, became my home, and the poets of colour there became my family. If it weren’t for those weekly meetings in the basement of the Africana Studies Department every Thursday, I would not be here. My words would definitely have never found a stage. I grew there as a writer, a performer, a thinker and a human being. What that space, and those poets, gave me is invaluable and shaped me profoundly.

Do you think any poem, whether written for the page or otherwise, has the potential to be shaped into a vehicle for performance, or do you think there has to be immediacy to the context of poetry for the stage?

I think the vital part of any performance is sincerity and honesty. I am a storyteller, which means sometimes my words come out in prose, other times in poetry. The form has never hindered me in sharing a piece of writing on stage. I was always taught that words have immense weight, and therefore, as writers, we have a responsibility to use them correctly, and wisely. A piece of writing must sit just as well on a page as it does on a stage. For me, the performance always comes after the words have been crafted. However it does not mean every poem needs to be performed, or published — rather, you yourself will know which form allows you to be completely true to your work.

What spoken word poets do you admire for their work? Do you think the nature of this form allows its practitioners to also access the worlds of songwriting, theater, acting…? 

Here, my bias comes into play. My favourite spoken word poet of all time is Laura Brown Lavoie. She was a senior when I was a freshman at Brown and I have never met someone who knows how to shape the English language the way she does. For me, humility on stage is also very important. Anis Mojgani is someone who does that beautifully. He is raw, intelligent, funny and refreshingly honest. His poems speak to everyone, but his presence within them, is most admirable to me. Again, I have great love and respect for poets who were mentors to me from my time in WORD!, and others such as Sarah Kay, Ahmad Al Rady, Soreti Kader, Dylan Garrity, Paul Tran, Safia Elhilo, Jess Chen, Kai Huang, Ke’ala Morell, Aziza Barnes to name a few.

I have always believed poetry to be storytelling, and everyone has a story to tell. Not everyone can excel at it because, on some level, poetry depends on inspiration and requires commitment and hard work to refine — but not everyone has to share their story through the written word. Stories lend themselves very easily to other art forms.

You’ve performed your work at an incredible amount of International venues and you also possess a trans-cultural identity as a Pakistani who’s a resident/citizen of differing cultures. How does this figure in your writing? How does this propel your creativity and your sensitivity to issues faced by ordinary Pakistanis?

That’s a hard one. There’s an ongoing “identity” issue associated with being a third culture kid, no matter how ardently I try to deny it. I have always considered myself Pakistani first. My parents never went abroad with the intention of staying abroad, so we were always deeply rooted to our family, our values, and our traditions. I would like to think we tried to take the best of each culture from Romania, to Yemen, Wales, to Australia and yet, retain the core values that tied us to Pakistan. I am very privileged to have had access to diverse communities across the world, and deeply humbled by the responsibility to ensure I do my part in portraying the love, the resilience, the softness of my fellow Pakistanis that is often overlooked. I would like to think poetry is a means for me to do that. To share the untold stories, here and abroad. To be a vessel between people, between minds and between hearts.

What writers/poets within a larger literary context do you find yourself reading time and time again? Whose work has had an undeniable impact on your own? Whose work would you suggest to emerging poets?

Emerson, Shakespeare, Hopkins, Yeats, Sylvia Plath, Eliot, Robert Snyderman, Rick Benjamin and others from our own tradition — Rumi, Iqbal, Ghalib, Attar and Parveen Shakir — who have left us with beautiful gems that I am only just beginning to unearth.

You’ve conducted art therapy and writing workshops in the aftermath of the Peshawar tragedy. How was your experience and how do you think the creative instinct can help to heal trauma?

I used to work in prisons in the US as part of the Spaces in Prisons for Arts and Creative Expression (SPACE), teaching writing workshops, which was one of the greatest learning experiences I ever had. The women there taught me more than I could ever teach them. So in the aftermath of the Peshawar shooting, after teaching art therapy and writing workshops in a few schools, I realised there was an enormous need for safe and creative spaces for children to engage with the violence around them in a non-violent and constructive manner. The APS shooting affected every student in Pakistan but no one has paid enough attention to the long-term effects of such immense trauma. I fear the insecurity may cripple us if we do not create safe spaces that channel the negativity into positive expression. Creative spaces give breathing room. They tend to diffuse the negativity, and provide an alternative to violence. Today, in my opinion, it is an absolute necessity to create such spaces. My experiences in Peshawar and then in other cities in Pakistan were the catalyst for Pakistan Poetry Slam, a project under WORD Ink, a social enterprise I am lucky enough to have founded with Zohab Khan.

What are your future aims for your own poetry? Also, please tell us about your vision for Pakistan Poetry Slam and what you hope to accomplish in the long term…

To be honest, I consider myself a student of poetry but I was once told that the best way to learn is to teach. Pakistan Poetry Slam is one of the ways in which I hope that teaching will actually be a form of learning for me. The motivation for Pakistan Poetry Slam was solely to create a safe space for the next generation of Pakistanis to articulate, express and respond to the violence around them in a non-violent manner. The aim is to empower young people with language and revive the tradition of storytelling and poetry that runs through us. We (Zohab and I) wanted to bring our own international experience to Pakistan and share it with young people here. While slam is the competitive form of spoken word poetry, the program is designed to ensure that students participate in 3-4 weeks of workshops that take them from writing to performance, and the top three students from each school (private and public) showcase their work at Pakistan Poetry Slam at the end of February. The slam will feature poetry in Urdu and English as a platform for both communities to interact and learn from each other, and eventually find solutions together. We are launching the pilot in Lahore, and hope to scale up to other urban centres next year.

Recently one of my teachers shared a story from the Masnavi with me, in which Rumi points out that the world is in need of translators. People who can bridge communities, cultures, races in an attempt to celebrate our diversity of thought and expression. I hope that with the right kind of guidance and mentorship, that Pakistan Poetry Slam can create the next generation of translators who will help us navigate, and change course.